Tuesday, January 19, 2010

What happened?

I'm taking this discussion off facebook because I hate airing dirty laundry longer than I have to. Facebook let's my anger thrive, and I don't need that right now.

So, here's my question and I want it answered HONESTLY.

What happened with Bacon? I want answers from everybody involved with the dog. One of the key sources of bitterness and anger in my mind right now is that I wasn't able to take care of that dog. I don't know where I was when she disappeared (I hate to think it was while deployed), but my biggest regret is not trying harder to make her mine. So, I want to know the situation behind her.

And then we can get back into the sin of declawing a cat.

8 comments:

Jessie said...

I was at moms and dad called saying one of his friends had a farm---blah blah blah he lied, whats new? He took her to the humane society to get adopted because we could not give her the care she needed. She had a really bad skin infection/rash and we tried everything. Nothing helped. Bryan, I was too young to say that I could handle her because obviously I couldn't. I was in Junior high when we got her. Yes, I loved her but that's all I could give her. She needed more than love and at a certain point, one realizes that there is someone out there who really can care for her better.
When I got back from moms, I went to the human society acting like I wanted to adopt a dog. I made the people think that I was in there earlier and I asked about a golden lab/beagle mix, female, medium height. They were surprised that I even knew that dog because they said when she came in, they cleaned her up and within 2 days, she was adapted. I always check the boards and I stop in once in a while, and her picture is up on the board with all the other dogs that have been through there.
But bryan, You have to realize that just because we have animals, does not necessarily mean that we should or that we are capable of taking full responsibility for them. I could not. I learned from that mistake. Cats are definitely way easier to handle. But I wanted a real companion so I got Olly. I was old enough to handle him. I could afford him. I am taking the best care of him that I possibly can. He is in great shape and health. Bryan, just because I don't treat the cats and Olly like a child, does not mean I don't love them like they are my children.

You really need to cool down about a lot of stuff. Freaking out over little things really doesn't help. Let the little things go. You can't always persuade and convince someone that you are all righteous and that just because you are preaching to them, it probably won't change their minds. Like the cat thing.
As long as I am living with dad, Tanya keeps her claws (because she does get out because he is blind and can't see her) but unless he has no other pet by the time I move out, I am taking her and I will declaw her. Hey, maybe she'll be too old by then to do it and you'll get the say "yay" but blowing things out of proportion and intervening in my business and my decisions doesn't do anything but cause arguments (FB proves this..)

If it bugged you that much about Bacon, you should have talked to dad. Again, it was his decision. Not mine. Remember I was the victim in a way because I didn't even get to say goodbye--And yes, I realize too that she was a victim also but dwelling on the negatives doesn't do anything but put you in a bad mood so think positively. Imagine shes on a huge farm with 4 kids and she gets to run all day and play with other dogs and gets to eat pig flop that spills over the trough; A dogs dream.

Just let it go..its in the past and no one can change it.

Bry said...

It's funny how you keep saying I'm blowing things out of proportion. I'm certainly not. I am convinced that a living creature is being handled inappropriately and I am reacting the proper way. I'm trying to find answers about a neglected dog and I'm trying to convince you not to hurt that cat.

Yes anger gets in the way. I'm sorry. But you have to understand by now that dealing with you is very irritating. And I don't mean that as an insult, but as a statement.

I could have taken care of Bacon. But I'm glad to hear that she might be at a better place. That's made me feel better.

Now let's move on with the current issue.

DO NOT DECLAW THAT CAT.

E2 said...

there are alternatives to declawing your cat. petco trims cat nails.

I can't recommend declawing, it is a severe surgery, but it's ultimately up to the owner of the animal.

Just remember that behavior problems can stem from the procedure.

Jessie said...

did no one listen(or read) when I said,
"As long as I am living with dad, Tanya keeps her claws (because she does get out because he is blind and can't see her) but unless he has no other pet by the time I move out, I am taking her and I will declaw her. Hey, maybe she'll be TOO OLD by then to do it and you'll get the say "yay"'
That right there shows you are blowing up over nothing because I stated many times this same quote and you still seem to lecture me about it. This cat isn't in any harm and the fact that you really think I find joy in hurting animals is ludicrous. There are not any animals being neglected. Dad cares for these animals more than he ever did for us...and he did care for us so these animals are treated like royalty here. You really need to drop this. Its over and done. No reason to even comment back.

Bry said...

Jessie, all you said was you will declaw the cat unless she's too old. WTF?

I will let you do whatever you want, but don't think I won't continue to harass you until you don't. I work in marketing. That's how it works.

Groar.

Nate said...

I was in tears when I decided and went forward with declawing mittens...

but happy to say that after her pain went away and she stopped favoring the front paws, she is just as loving a cat and affectionate a cat as she was before...she still follows me into every room, lays with me on the couch while watching TV or in my office while I work on stuff, and then is quick to cuddle with me in bed at night...

With anything when it comes to cats, their behavior can change quickly. There is that risk. at the same time, as mittens has shown, there is the chance everything will be okay.

Earlier the better when declawing cats, as any vet would say, although they would not come out and recommend the procedure. In all cases, the vest know and understand the declawing is more about the owner than it is the cat.

I tried to train her, and she would use scratch posts, but at the same time she would claw up my couch, my table, and even be too rough when playing around...leading to bad scratches and scars on my arms.

Actually, come to think about it, she hasn't been as rough since I declawed her.

Its up to the owner, and it isn't a sin Bryan. I've always stated that yes, declawing is not simply cutting the nails, or even removing the nails, but rather similar to someone cutting off your fingers at the first knuckle on each and every finger.

its not a horrible thing, as I've come to realize, but not ideal. Unless the cat is causing major damage (which mine was) there should be no consideration for the declaw.

Jessie said...

update::
Tanya climbed to the top of the pantry and literally ripped open the unopened dog food bag. She shredded it. Now I have to go out and get another bag for him because THEY(yea, she eats dog food too) basically ate the whole thing in the time dad and I were running errands yesterday--to top it off, she is still defacing our furniture.
I said--I cannot declaw her while she and I are living with dad. IF by chance, she and I move out within the next month, she is getting declawed. There is no chance that we are moving out that soon so SHE WILL BE TOO OLD TO GET IT DONE. I called West Ridge and asked. Give it a break Bryan.

Nate said...

declawing is still a horrible experience no matter how old the cat...if you are not the least bit emotional by going thru with the process, then maybe you shouldn't be going through the process...let alone be an owner of a cat.

this is to everyone! I think it is ok so long as it is absolutely necessary. but it is traumatic...again, it is like cutting of the end of your fingers at the first knuckle, fusing the wound together with stitches, not being able to go to the bathroom or eat for a week without being in extreme pain that you alter your behavior.

again, not ideal, but sometimes required.